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  1. Hi All, Version of the Fixed Family Tab mod is published with these important updates: * Multiple marriages are supported * No conflict with Robin Richmond's Regroup Person Profile mod v13.0.0.19e <-- Note version 19e (published Nov 28, 2020) Grab it here: https://tng.lythgoes.net/wiki/index.php?title=Fixed_Family_Tab Note for TNG 12 users: A version is coming today or tomorrow, but it will NOT include the Regroup Person Profile adaptation. BTW! Public Access Control is updated by Robin to solve conflicys. See here: https://tng.lythgoes.net/wiki/index.php?title=Public_Access_Control Best regards, Erik
  2. youngros

    Custom users

    Something I've not needed to do before but now want to setup a user to view some of the trees on my site. Even though the box is checked to allow to view living individuals they still show as "living", but not if they are allowed to view all trees. Something I am missing?
  3. tngrlkrz

    Template Switch Mod

    Just posted a new Template_Switch mod. It is a variation of a private mod I use for testing across TNG templates, and also can be used to offer users ability to select templates. Much faster switching between templates without entering Administration. It is supported on TNG 12.3 and greater.
  4. I had TNG installed and working properly on a Synology RS 815 NAS. But after a reset of the server, I can't get TNG reinstalled. The data base is still existent. PHP and html seem to work fine (e.g. on Mediawiki). When I try to install a new instance of TNG, I get Please wait, attempting to process.. on "Set permissions" followed by the message in annex. Does anyone know what might be the cause? "Set permissions" has no influence on the database or am I wrong?
  5. I have finally found a way to get my media files assigned to the proper custom media collections during the GEDCOM import process. It does require a "hack" to the gedimport_misc.php file, maybe someday the capability can be made standard by Darrin, or turned into a mod, but for now, this is a HUGE thing for me. I've never cared for the documents/video/recordings collections, always wanted to use my own collections and menu items. Since I use TNG just for display, and frequently clear the tree and reimport from GEDCOM, I needed the placement of files into collections to be automated and not manual. Now it is. I wrote it up in a longer blog post with lots of screen shots, and I'm afraid it probably still doesn't make too much sense, but thought I'd offer it here for anyone looking to do this. Say I have images of birth certificates and the like on my desktop in P:\Genealogy\exhibits\birth_records, and my genealogy program (RootsMagic) puts that entire path in the GEDCOM file. I really want to have a media collection and menu item called "Birth Records", and for the GEDCOM import to put those files in that collection for me. Here's how make the server folder structure similar to the desktop folder structure on desktop: P:\Genealogy\exhibits\birth_records on server: tng/documents/birth_records create the collection in TNG Admin>>Media collection ID: birthrec display title: Birth Records folder name: documents/birth_records add code to customconfig.php defining this collection and the gedcom file path $locimppath['birthrec'] = "P:\\Genealogy\\exhibits\\birth_records"; edit gedimport_misc.php to add this collection ID and import path info to the getLocalPathList function This is what gedimport_misc.php section looks like original: function getLocalPathList($mediatypeID) { global $locimppath, $mediatypes_locpaths; switch( $mediatypeID ) { case "photos": $locpath = $locimppath['photos']; break; case "histories": $locpath = $locimppath['histories']; break; case "documents": $locpath = $locimppath['documents']; break; case "headstones": $locpath = $locimppath['headstones']; break; case "recordings": case "videos": $locpath = $locimppath['other']; break; default: $locpath = isset($mediatypes_locpaths[$mediatypeID]) ? $mediatypes_locpaths[$mediatypeID] : ""; } return $locpath; } You need to add a "case" section for your new media collection. This is what you add: case "birthrec": $locpath = $locimppath['birthrec']; break; Do that for every additional media collection you have created. This is the longer blog post about this technique https://lptex.com/blog/tng-custom-media-collections-using-gedcom-import/ Here's what I see after I do a GEDCOM import and then run the secondary process to trim menus And this is what the menu looks like on the live site I'm working towards the TNG-WP integration and will not be using the TNG menus at all, so I didn't bother with any menu icons. I hope this helps others as much as it has me - this is something I've wanted for YEARS and finally sat down to figure out how to do it myself.
  6. Hi, it is my first time here, even if I work on TNG since many years. I started recently to write SQL reports on my ancestry DB. Now I ask for an help. Now I am trying to obtain a query including all people in the same branch as follows: SELECT bl.branch, p.personID, p.suffix, p.sex, p.lastname, p.firstname, p.birthplace, p.birthdate, f.husband, f.wife, f.marrdate, p.deathplace, p.deathdate FROM tng_branchlinks AS bl INNER JOIN tng_branches AS b ON (bl.branch=b.branch) INNER JOIN tng_people AS p ON (bl.persfamID=p.personID) INNER JOIN tng_families AS f ON(p.personID=f.husband OR p.personID=f.wife) WHERE bl.branch='T1t001' ORDER BY p.birthdatetr DESC, p.lastname; the result is: # Branch Person ID Suffix sex Last Name First Name Birth Place Birth Date husband wife Marriage Date Death Place Death Date 1 T1t001 I2335 1692-1768 M Arduini Francesco Caprino Veronese - Rubiana 27 Apr 1692 I2335 I2403 16 Feb 1713 Caprino Veronese - Rubiana 17 Feb 1768 2 T1t001 I2335 1692-1768 M Arduini Francesco Caprino Veronese - Rubiana 27 Apr 1692 I2335 I2448 1742 Caprino Veronese - Rubiana 17 Feb 1768 3 T1t001 I2489 1670-1732 F S.C. Madalena °°Arduini Ventura Caprino Veronese 1670 I2420 I2489 1691 Caprino Veronese - Rubiana 5 Mar 1732 4 T1t001 I2420 ?1662-1742 M Arduini Ventura Caprino Veronese - Rubiana 1662 I2420 I2489 1691 Caprino Veronese - Rubiana 7 Oct 1742 you see husband & wife columns...(in red), I would like to put instead of the code (I2235 etc) the right name: SQL: SELECT p.personID, p.suffix, p.sex, bl.branch, p.lastname, p.firstname, p.birthplace, p.birthdate, f.marrplace, f.marrdate, p2.branch AS CB, p2.lastname AS CLN, p2.firstname AS CFN, p.deathplace, p.deathdate, f.husband, f.wife FROM tng_branchlinks AS bl INNER JOIN tng_branches AS b ON (bl.branch=b.branch) INNER JOIN tng_people AS p ON (bl.persfamID=p.personID) INNER JOIN tng_families AS f ON (p.personID=f.husband) INNER JOIN tng_people AS p2 ON (p2.personID=f.wife) WHERE bl.branch='T1t001' ORDER BY p.birthdatetr DESC, p.lastname # Person ID Suffix sex Branch Last Name First Name Birth Place Birth Date Marriage Place Marriage Date CB CLN CFN Death Place Death Date husband wife 1 I2335 1692-1768 M T1t001 Arduini Francesco Caprino Veronese - Rubiana 27 Apr 1692 Caprino Veronese - chiesa S.Maria Maggiore 16 Feb 1713 T1,T1t002 Dalle Vedove Angela Caprino Veronese - Rubiana 17 Feb 1768 I2335 I2403 2 I2335 1692-1768 M T1t001 Arduini Francesco Caprino Veronese - Rubiana 27 Apr 1692 Caprino Veronese - chiesa S.Maria Maggiore [?] 1742 S.C. Angela °°Ardoini F. Caprino Veronese - Rubiana 17 Feb 1768 I2335 I2448 3 I2420 ?1662-1742 M T1t001 Arduini Ventura Caprino Veronese - Rubiana 1662 Caprino Veronese - chiesa S.Maria Maggiore [?] 1691 T1,T1t001 S.C. Madalena °°Arduini Ventura Caprino Veronese - Rubiana 7 Oct 1742 I2420 I2489 So the result is OK but only for Males ! The previous #3 record I2489 does not appear. I tried to do an UNION statement joinig a couple of Queris but no result. CAN ANYBODY help me ! Thanks Fabio
  7. Brett

    Mod: Click Counter II Email Notify

    On rare occassions, I receive the 'download not authorized email' where the Mod requested does not match the Wiki page. email subject: Download not authorized: Hide Admin DNA TNG11+ Hide Admin DNA TNG11+ was requested by User:Anonymous IP: (xxx.xxx.xx.xx) Country: France Region: City: TNG Wiki page is: https://tng.lythgoes.net/wiki/index.php/Insert_Children_Gender I have not been able to replicate this myself. Do any other Mod developers using Click Counter II Email Notify notice this? Does anyone have an idea of what may be occurring?
  8. Juergen Amling

    Upgrade v. 12.3 to 13 - Strict Standards error

    Just want to let you know I solved this problem, which was obviously a part of mod settings. I had uninstalled the mods but didn't delete them, thought that wasn't necessary. But looks like deleting the mods after uninstalling did that. I'm good. Thanks for looking at my problem! After a smooth upgrade from version 12.3 to 13 (using template 12) on my website https://juergenamling.com/de I received the following error right above the menu line: Strict Standards: date(): We selected 'America/New_York' for 'EDT/-4.0/DST' instead in /homepages/22/d155018853/htdocs/de/genlib.php on line 653 When looking in the Setup/General Settings/Miscellaneous/ Server Time offset (hours) I see the following messages: Strict Standards: date(): We selected 'America/New_York' for 'EDT/-4.0/DST' instead in /homepages/22/d155018853/htdocs/de/admin_genconfig.php on line 1211Server time is Tue 11:06 amStrict Standards: date(): We selected 'America/New_York' for 'EDT/-4.0/DST' instead in /homepages/22/d155018853/htdocs/de/admin_genconfig.php on line 1211Strict Standards: date(): We selected 'America/New_York' for 'EDT/-4.0/DST' instead in /homepages/22/d155018853/htdocs/de/admin_genconfig.php on line 1211and site time is Tue 10:06 am And there are a lot of other error messages, basically all concerning the time setting to New York Time (I live in Central Time Zone). On my website https://juergenamling.com/cemeteries are no errors after the upgrade. My host is 1and1.com (IONOS) and I'm using PHP Version 7.4. I tried changing to V. 7.3 and 7.2 but still the same error messges. All Mods are uninstalled. And yes the database structure was updated. I'm using template 12, but same error in other templates (tried 13, 4) Anybody else having this problem? Or has a solution?
  9. I did follow the steps as mentioned in this guide. I have 2 sub folders: I have the following diagnostics: see image attached: Aantekening 2020-08-30 200509.png I followed all the steps and when I open the adress https://www.paulvanachterberg.nl/genealogie/ it leaves all blank. I also added the TNG pugin options. See the image TNG Plugin options. I also added Site Design and Definition. See the image Desing and setting. Any ideas what I might have missed?
  10. aaraujo

    Reuse of citations

    My wife loves this program! And we've been using it for the past 3-4 years (I think). She is extremely meticulous in all the data that she collects and the research that she performs. I am a programmer myself, and I make small changes here and there to be able to use the program more like she wants to. An example is the header on the people pages: [see image 1] So she can easily navigate back and forth in the generations. One thing she would really like is: She wants to be able to "reuse" citations. It's not really the "Copy Last" functionality that already exists... she wants to be able, at any time, to go to, for example, an event, and click on the citations icon, and be able to search for an existing citation and attach that citation to the event. A similar functionality exists within media, where I can pick "Citation" in the dropdown: [see image 2] then click on the magnifying glass and get the form: [see image 3] I suspect that in doing something like this, the citation would be duplicated (with a new ID), but she wouldn't have to input all of the details of the citation again. It would be even better, in my opinion, if it actually reused the original citation and somehow "linked" that same citation to the other event, but that might cause some other issues down the road, if she were to edit a citation and not realize that it is associated to more than one event. The reason for this, is that, for example, she finds an article about a given person... that article might contain numerous facts, like what sports/clubs/organizations the person was involved in during their college years. Since it is a single article, if that article spawns multiple facts, she is forced to input the citation multiple times, once for each fact. Potentially, any media that is associated with that citation could be automatically associated to the additional facts... but that might be something along the lines of: "This citation has media associated with it [media list] Do you want to link this media to this fact as well? [Yes] [No] This might seem somewhat overkill, but her tree has around 1600 people in it already (I believe she's in the 14th century already). It's to the point where a complete fan chart cannot be generated (it just sits there processing until PHP times out, even the php_maxtime, or whatever it's called, set high does no good ) I know... crazy... but... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Any help would be appreciated... if someone is willing to make a mod to do this... I'm willing to pay, so hit me up! Tony
  11. Hi All! Wierd thing happen... I use tng v12.3, Rick too With the same gedcom, our sites looks different. I specify that no Mod is installed on both sites and changing of template have no effect too... This gedcom contains a special case : two persons are married twice : once in 1846 , the second marriage the jul 4, 1865. (Gedcom line 350 and next) Those two marriage are concerning Peter SWINDELLS and Mary GARDINER. Can some of you try to import this little gedcom (20 families) and look what is showing on his screen? Michel By Rick, this result in a second line for the second marriage :(see wife 2) On my site, this result in NO lines for the second mariage. Rick.ged
  12. Krisamd

    Member sign in password

    The members select their own password and there is no password setting requirement. My members are insisting strong password requirement as they would be putting their family info. I need Capital+small+numbers+special charactors (@,#,%,&,) and minimum 6charactors. If members generating password does not meet the requirement, it should reject and give reasons. Is there any solutions in TNG ? Will appreciate feedback Thanks Kris
  13. Danita

    Menu colors in Kloosterman method

    I've been using the Kloosterman method to my satisfaction for awhile now, but one thing I simply can't figure out. On kloosterman.be, template colors from one of the templates other than the default. No matter what I do, I seem to get the default template colors, so I made my menu colors similar just to avoid dealing with it. It's been awhile though, and I'm getting ready to do another part of our family, and I'd like to be able to get TNG to use a different template color scheme. My site is https://family.zanre.com - compare https://www.kloosterman.be/genealogy/surnames.php to https://family.zanre.com/genealogy/surnames.php - I'm just stuck with the old default template colors. Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong? I've even tried copying one of the other template folders to "template1" but it doesn't help. I really didn't see anything in the setup instructions that would cover this. I feel like I'm just overlooking something basic! If I turn back on "select template" I can see the template I have chosen, but turning it off (which is what makes the actual system work), just gives me the default template again. Thanks for any assistance you can provide. Danita
  14. I'm having trouble figuring out how to use the built in Mod Mangager in V 12 to install Simple SEO. I have already placed the mod in my Mod's folder and unzipped it. Now what do I do? I'm a Newbie and haven't figured this out. Thanks, Linda
  15. rcpettit

    Add citation section

    Is there any plans to add a citations section to the admin area. It seems a waste of space to have multiple copies of a citation in the database and having to edit them individually if you make an error.
  16. I have tried both the MODS Show Step parents and Show all family. but in the later one it will not show step parents even though it is set to do so. If I only have Show Step parents they are shown as they should. See attached screen shots for comparison. Thanks Jan
  17. nkoss

    AKA data

    Is there any way to insert a nickname or an alias for a person? I see that there is a place for nickname, but I guess what confuses me is that I have a database in Legacy that includes a place for an alias for each individual, but that data didn't seem to get transferred. I notice that in the GED file, the nicknames are shown as 1 Name /Nick/ and this always occurs right after 2 SURN surname and then is followed by 2 GIVN 2 SURN Nick which really confuses me What does TNG do with that nickname?
  18. Folks, not sure how much information to share here in order to get the point across, but I'll try and be concise and provide extra information as needed. frankly, I don't think (a) - (c) are needed, other than for context. (a) I use Diane Begemen's method to record my census data in "The Master Genealogist" (TMG) as referenced on this site. http://tmg.reigelridge.com/Census.htm (b) standard gedcom export from TMG does not properly handle this on export due to the use of witnesses. (c) as such, I've created a report in TMG that pulls the data I'm interested in. I then save as .csv file. I then import into TNG using phpmyadmin. (d) this process works very well with one exception. when I save the file from excel into a .csv file; some of the dates are saving properly; while others are not. the dates that are not saved properly (they have slashes instead of dashes) end up as zero's in the eventdatetr field which then is causing my person view in TNG to not be sorted properly. (e) so basically excel has the proper format for the dates (all dashes). this can be seen in the attachment "report_in_excel". (f) the csv file has the wrong date format, but only for some dates (those with slashes instead of dashes). this can be seen in the attachment "report_in_csv". (g) upon import through phpmyadmin, the events table can be seen in "report_in_phpmyadmin". this shows the records that had slashes in the dates rather than dashes coming in all as zeros into eventdatetr. hope this makes sense. happy to answer any questions. thank you for any assistance.
  19. zanger02

    reCaptcha Problem

    I'm having trouble with reCaptcha. I added the keys from google reCaptcha and realized I should be using v2 keys. I can't find any options for V2. Where would I find the V2 keys? My website TNG V 12.1 (Mac OS Catalina)
  20. I've resigned myself to doing a fresh install of v12.3. My updating of a previous install had left my old v12.3 site buggy and with extraneous information. Unfortunately I do have a number of users on the 'old' site. My question is how can I move those users (login info etc.) to the new site? Thank you, Dwayne
  21. Should I be able to change a user's password and/or email address in the User panel in TNG v12? I have users who have asked me to change these items but the changes I make don't stick. Should I just have them re-register with the new email address? Beleaguered admins want to know. Thanks, Gary
  22. ton van lil

    Random Histories

    I have installed the random_photo_display mod. It works perfectly well. Want to do the same with my histories. Does anybody know if its possible to have random histories on the home page? Greetings Ton
  23. Greetings, I am new to TNG and I am working on my village family tree. I only have information dating back to the 1800. While entering data, I noticed that a lot of times the same names repeat (First and Last) rendering it very difficult to find the right person to connect. Based on the sources I am reading, the connections were based on the first name, last name AND father's name of the person. My question: Is it possible when searching for a person to add the father's name as a search parameter? Is it possible to display the father's name as another filed in the search results? Thank you for your help Matta
  24. Opening a new Topic about this idea, resuming some advices from TNG users Aug 19, Ron Said : "That would be of interest for sure. Along with open my page, and bookmarks, etc, the site would be tailored to the user. I think today the user isn't comfortable setting or designating the Sosa, particularly each time they log on. Good winter project indeed! " Aug, 20. Katryne said : "Michel : a Sosa to be chosen by each member, something like a cookie attached to his profile ? That would be gerat for the village website. " Answer : Yes Katryne, something like that... May be a little table with user-sosa1-tree server side and a local array... I still have to think about it. Aug 20, Ken said : " You should also consider an option that allows the TNG Administrator to decide whether users can set their own Sosa or not. Possibly use an option that is tied to the user record that contains the user's treeID and personID, assuming they all contain valid data, to anchor the starting Sosa so it could be set by the administrator and not chew up bandwidth and MySQL execution time while the user plays with their starting number. My user records do not all contain the user's treeID and personID because my database was not updated when Darrin added those 2 fields to the user record. Just a thinking out loud here, since i can see Sosa number setting as chewing up MySQL execution time. " Answer : In any case, the option would be offered ONLY for connected members, possibly with pre/post authorization of the administrator.
  25. On my desktop I've been using Family Tree Maker as my preferred data entry software for about the last 10 years. For somewhat longer than that I've been using TNG, more recently integrated with Wordpress, to display it, although I also sync to Ancestry. I've always been disappointed I couldn't get media automatically allocated to the correct TNG Collection after importing a GEDCOM produced by FTM. Sadly, my TNG tree hadn't been updated for quite a while, partly because my media links were a mess, with many "File not found" errors, multiple links to the same file etc and I kept procrastinating about facing the challenge to tidy it all up . Over the Christmas/New Year break I bit the bullet, upgraded TNG from v. 11.x to 12.2 and spent some time modifying the CSS files to harmonise with my Wordpress theme (another thing I'd been putting off). Then I started researching the media collections issue; the excellent "gotchas" item in this very wiki was the hallelujah moment when I started to see light at the end of the tunnel! That article led me to Stephen Conner's FTM to TNG Gedcom Fixer program, and also Robin Richmond's GEDCOM Converter mod. Because I was more specifically interested in the media collections I focused on the former. So I spent days modifying the media filenames using FTM to match the requirements of Stephen's Fixer program, a process that's easy enough if quite tedious. I had replicated my website onto my desktop (in a WAMP environment) to fiddle with the CSS and some other mods, so I could test importing a new GEDCOM without jeopardising the live site. I deleted all the existing media files from the tng \media folder and copied the newly-renamed files from my FTM media folder into their respective new website folders. When I imported the fixed GEDCOM file (selecting the options Replace all current data and Import media if present) I was confused to see weird results eg only 12 out of 37 headstones correctly allocated in TNG, 50 out of 269 documents, etc. I spent more time researching and studying the GEDCOM files before & after the fixer program but couldn't see any issues. Then I used PHPMyAdmin to study the TNG database and noticed entries in the media table that didn't look right, and furthermore the number of rows didn't correlate with the number of files. It finally twigged that TNG doesn't clear (ie empty) the media tables when doing a GEDCOM import, even if the option to replace all data is selected. I came to realise that renaming the media files had therefore left things even more messy than previously, and that what I should do is clear all the media tables before doing an import so that TNG would rebuild it from scratch on import. With a view to helping other in the same predicament who may not have the expertise or inclination to play around in the database with PHPMyAdmin I quickly found an excellent backgrounder and tutorial by Bob Cumberbatch on doing it the easy way from within TNG itself (which also confirmed my thoughts). When I followed Bob's procedure to clear all the tables, but NOT restoring the media table (thereby forcing TNG to rebuild it) and re-imported the GEDCOM, Happy Days - all looks great! So if you've waded through all the background, here's my step-by-step takeaway to get your FTM media Categories reflected in TNG Collections. I've tried to pull together tips and procedures from several different places together with my experience into one resource. This has been produced with FTM 2019 and TNG 12.2, but I believe it should work with at least the immediately previous versions of both (but not FTM 2012). It worked for me, but use it at your own risk . NOTE: This should only be done if you use only Family Tree Maker (or Ancestry and sync to FTM) for your data entry and use TNG only to display it! NOTE 2: Sorry Mac users but this process will only work on Windows machines, because Stephen Conner's GEDCOM Fixer program only runs on Windows (though maybe OK using a Windows emulator? Anyone able to confirm please comment below!) I highly recommend replicating your online TNG site to your desktop and backing everything up (including all your media files, before renaming them) so you don't jeopardise your live site in case this doesn't work for you. Do all your modifications on your desktop site and check everything before going through the same steps on your live site. That's beyond the scope of this article, but if you Google or search YouTube for "WAMP" or "XAMPP" you'll find plenty of guides to get a local webserver set up. Also beyond the scope of this article you'll need to be familiar with a File Transfer Protocol (FTP) program. Google or YouTube "FileZilla" for a start. Read the "gotchas" article on this wiki and the detailed information available on Stephen Conner's page (with its linked help docs) and Bob Cumberbatch's page, all as linked above, so that you understand the issues and what the proposed fixes do. Using FTM, rename your media files to match the requirements of Stephen Conner's fixer program. This might take quite some time, depending on your individual situation. Do the following in TNG. In Administration | Setup | Configuration | General Settings, Paths & Folders, setup the new media folders eg: In Administration | Setup | Configuration | Import Settings, make sure the Local [*] paths match those used by FTM on your computer, eg on my system this is (where "XXX" is my Windows username and "YYY" is my tree name in FTM) - yours might be very different: If you're not sure what this path is, either open your GEDCOM file (see below) in Notepad or similar, scroll to the bottom where the media entries are located and look for a line like the following: 1 FILE D:\Users\XXX\Documents\Family Tree Maker\YYY Media\p_4 generations.jpg or in Family Tree Maker (assuming you're using the default database path) go to the Tools | Options menu, General tab, copy the database path, eg for me this is: paste it into the TNG box and add "\[your tree name] Media\" on to the end of it, replacing [your tree name] with the actual name of your FTM tree. Note that in FTM, all media files are stored in the one folder, so you'll use the same path for all of the TNG settings. This path will be removed from that recorded in the GEDCOM file by TNG for each media file so that it can store just the actual filename. In Administration | Trees, for your selected or only tree, click the "Clear" icon: and answer OK to the prompt. When you get to this step on your live site you'd use your selected FTP program (eg FileZilla) for these steps, but initially of course this should be on your local machine so you'd use Windows Explorer/My Computer on Windows or Finder on a Mac to delete all the files in yout TNG media folder, then copy all your renamed media files from the FTM media folder into their respective new folders on your TNG installation, as described in Stephen Conner's documentation. In FTM, select the File | Export menu. The important options are highlighted here, other options at your discretion: then at the next prompt select Other as the Destination: Note the filename chosen when you click OK; you'll need it next. Follow the procedures in Stephen Conner's documentation to setup and run the fixer program, including installing any necessary Windows support files (one-off). From TNG's Administration | Import/Export page, select your "fixed" file, making sure it's not the original one exported from FTM: Select the important options as highlighted below, other options at your discretion: and finally click Import Data. Wait for a short while, then verify what you expect to see. Hopefully like me, you'll be a happy person! Enjoy! A huge thank you to Stephen Conner, Robin Richmond and Bob Cumberbatch for throwing light on this area, and certainly not least Darrin Lythgoe for making TNG so flexible and such a capable environment for our purposes! Cheers Ian Davidson