Pictures of sources from Legacy 7.5

[Jens K.R.]

Hi Forum,

New to the Forum and TNG so please be patient with me

Bought TNG 3 days ago and already got it set up running beautifully online except one thing!

My setup is Legacy (7.5) on Windows PC where all editing is done and then plan on regular exports via gedcom to online TNG where no editing will take place.

I've go 5K individuals in Legacy and on most of them I got at least 1 picture of a source (often a page from a church-book), and on many of the individuals I got several pictures of sources.

My problem is that when I do an update (Legacy -> GEDCOM -> TNG) then I Would of course like TNG to be able to display the pictures of these source but that doesn't happen.

I've no problems with "standard" photos of individuals - path is setup correct and I've of course triple-checked that all my pictures (regardless of belonging to an individual or a source) is FTP'ed to the online TNG site.

My guess is that it has something to do with how the picture of the source is tagged in the gedcom file, but I can't figure out how to deal with that?

Below is 2 snippets from the same gedcom file - the first of a picture on an individual which displays nicely online after being imported to TNG. The second snippet is from a picture of source registered on the same individual in Legacy:

1 OBJE

2 FORM jpg

2 FILE e:\Data\Slaegt\photos\RIN 01201-01300\RIN 01205 - Karen Marie Mogensen\RIN01205 - Karen Marie Mogensen.jpg

2 TITL Karen Marie Mogensen

2 _SCBK Y

2 _PRIM Y

2 _TYPE PHOTO

3 OBJE

4 FORM jpg

4 FILE e:\Data\Slaegt\documents\RIN 01201-01300\RIN 01205 - Karen Marie Mogensen\Kirkebog - Randers Amt - Galten Herred - Voldum 1928-1946 - 0163a-DK - Karen Marie Mogensen.jpg

4 TITL Begravet

4 _DATE 12-4-1934

4 _SCBK Y

4 _PRIM Y

4 _TYPE PHOTO

I think (but is not sure at all) that the my problem is laying somewhere among those lines in the gedcom, and of course I notice the difference in "1 OBJE" / "3 OBJE" and also on the number 2 or 4 at the start of each line, but I'm lost at how to deal with this.

Maybe someone else also uses Legacy (and registers pictures of sources in there as well) and have TNG set up to use/display these - if so I would be glad for any hints that could lead me to getting my sources displayed online ???

/Jens

[Victor Fansler]

I seem to have a similar issue. We used to have all of our photos in one folder in Legacy and on TNG, but we ran into an issue where the "Photos" folder has too many items in it and when listing its contents, times out. We were told by our Host provider (G0daddy) that we need to separate the files in sub folders. When we do that the GED com is exported correctly, but TNG still looks in the one folder. So, I ask a simiar question; how can we have photos in different subfolders, without manually making the changes in TNG?

[theKiwi]

I seem to have a similar issue. We used to have all of our photos in one folder in Legacy and on TNG, but we ran into an issue where the "Photos" folder has too many items in it and when listing its contents, times out. We were told by our Host provider (G0daddy) that we need to separate the files in sub folders. When we do that the GED com is exported correctly, but TNG still looks in the one folder. So, I ask a simiar question; how can we have photos in different subfolders, without manually making the changes in TNG?

Yes, you can use sub-folders with TNG.

You would need to set up the sub-folders on your PC and get Legacy to understand what the new paths to the images are. I don't know if Legacy has a tool that would do this in one hit for all your images or not (Reunion for Macintosh can track images and keep them linked if you move them around in the folder, and even if you rename them).

Once Legacy knows where all the images are now stored, create a new GEDCOM of your entire file.

In TNG you'd need to delete all Media items, and then import the GEDCOM file using the Replace All setting.

Roger

[Jens K.R.]

Subfolders is NOT the issue here.

I have several subfolders in my "photos" folder and all the pictures of/belonging to individuals are displayed perfectly - I just followed this guide to set that up: http://tng.lythgoes.net/wiki/index.php?title=Media_-_Import

My problem is that I would like to have the pictures of the sources registered in Legacy to show up in TNG !!!

/Jens

[Jens K.R.]

Hmmm ..... Maybe I'm the only one wanting to display the pictures of sources?

Is there anyone out there using Legacy with the same problem, or how did You solve this?

/Jens

[Jay Wilpolt]

Hmmm ..... Maybe I'm the only one wanting to display the pictures of sources?

Is there anyone out there using Legacy with the same problem, or how did You solve this?

/Jens

Do you have the pictures attached to the source record in Legacy?

Here is an example that works for me;

http://www.1familytree.com/genealogy/getpe...ree=1FamilyTree

(1familytreeguest pw = 1FamilyTreeGuest)

Jay

[Jens K.R.]

Hi Jay,

yes, I have the pictures attached to the source records in Legacy (and they'r eavailable online with the correct path as well)!

Can You elaborate on how a tag looks in Your gedcom for at picture of a source

Could this be something regarding to what standard TNG template I've used for the layout of my site?

I've tried several of these, and now I'm using the standard template no. 5 which i think looks nice, but looking at Your site I also notice another issue ..... the data for census is not showing up at all on my site. Do I have to do something in TNG to setup this - or is it maybe behaving this way because I entered the census' the "wrong way" in Legacy ?

/Jens

[Jay Wilpolt]

Hi Jay,

yes, I have the pictures attached to the source records in Legacy (and they'r eavailable online with the correct path as well)!

Can You elaborate on how a tag looks in Your gedcom for at picture of a source

Could this be something regarding to what standard TNG template I've used for the layout of my site?

I've tried several of these, and now I'm using the standard template no. 5 which i think looks nice, but looking at Your site I also notice another issue ..... the data for census is not showing up at all on my site. Do I have to do something in TNG to setup this - or is it maybe behaving this way because I entered the census' the "wrong way" in Legacy ?

/Jens

Here is the gedcom detail for the person

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0 @I166238@ INDI

1 NAME Henry William /Meyer/

2 GIVN Henry William

2 SURN Meyer

1 SEX M

1 BIRT

2 DATE 3 Aug 1843

2 PLAC Bossum, Germany

1 DEAT

2 DATE 1 Sep 1911

1 BURI

2 DATE 4 Sep 1911

2 PLAC Riverside Cemetery, Appleton, Outagamie, Wisconsin

1 REFN 18430803

1 EVEN <a href="http://www.lulu.com/shop/robert-allan-stevens/h-w-meyer-our-german-american-family/paperback/product-20182064.html>H. W. Meyer Book</a>

2 TYPE Book

2 SOUR @S844@

1 IMMI

2 DATE Abt 1847

1 EVEN Concordia College, Fort Wayne Indiana

2 TYPE Education - College/University

2 DATE Abt 1862

1 EVEN

2 TYPE 1900 Census

2 DATE 1900

2 PLAC Appleton, Outagamie, Wisconsin, USA

2 NOTE Henry W Meyer<tab>58

3 CONT Wilhelmina Meyer<tab>42

3 CONT William T Meyer<tab>18

3 CONT Henry W Meyer<tab>15

3 CONT Julchen A Meyer<tab>12

3 CONT Julia Harbeck<tab>62

3 CONT Carl G Seeger<tab>26

3 CONT Lena Eggert<tab>19

1 EVEN

2 TYPE Biography

2 DATE Abt 1911

2 NOTE HENRY WILLIAM MEYER, one of the foremost German newspaper e

3 CONC ditors in the State of Wisconsin and a man highly esteeme

3 CONC d by all who knew him, died at his home in Appleton on Sept

3 CONC ember 1, 1911. He was of German nativity, born in Bossum, K

3 CONC ingdom of Hanover, August 3, 1843, the son of Arendt H. an

3 CONC d Anna Meyer, and when but three years old was brought to A

3 CONC merica by his parents. The journey across the Atlantic wa

3 CONC s made in a small sailing vessel and required three months

3 CONC , but they finally sighted land and came to Milwaukee by wa

3 CONC y of the Great Lakes. Shortly thereafter they removed to th

3 CONC e town of Newton in Manitowoc county and there settled o

3 CONC n a wild and unbroken tract of land. Henry W. Meyer grew t

3 CONC o man's estate on the old homestead and experienced all th

3 CONC e trials and hardships incident to pioneer life. His ambiti

3 CONC on rose beyond the farm, however, and he was sent to publi

3 CONC c and private schools in Manitowoc and to Concordia College

3 CONC , Fort Wayne, Indiana, from which latter institution he gra

3 CONC duated in 1862. For four years he taught in the district sc

3 CONC hools of Manitowoc county, then in Whitewater, Wisconsin, a

3 CONC nd in 1869 came to Appleton and here for two years taugh

3 CONC t a private school for the Schul-Verein. In 1870 he acquire

3 CONC d a half interest in the "Volksfreund," and shortly afterwa

3 CONC rds became sole owner. This publication at that time had bu

3 CONC t a few hundred subscribers, but through the untiring effor

3 CONC ts of Meyer, who was editor, pressman and solicitor, the ci

3 CONC rculation increased rapidly until it was not only one of th

3 CONC e most widely circulated but also one of the most influenti

3 CONC al papers in the state, and is still regarded as such. Mr M

3 CONC eyer always took a keen interest and part in public affair

3 CONC s of importance, but steadfastly refused to hold office tho

3 CONC ugh many such were offered him and urged upon him. He prefe

3 CONC rred to work for the people through the medium of the Volks

3 CONC freund which he regarded as his life's work. On November 17

3 CONC , 1872, he was united in marriage with Miss Wilhelmine Harb

3 CONC eck, and to them these children were born: August H., secre

3 CONC tary and manager of the Langstadt-Meyer Construction & Supp

3 CONC ly Company, of Appleton; Richard J., associated with the ma

3 CONC nagement of the Volksfreund; William T., assistant cashie

3 CONC r of the Langlade National Bank of Antigo, Wisconsin; Henr

3 CONC y W., Jr., associated with the Langstadt-Meyer Constructio

3 CONC n & Supply Company; and Mrs. Julchen Meyer- Seeger. The sud

3 CONC den death of the latter, the only daughter, in February, 19

3 CONC 10, was a fatal shock to Mr. Meyer, and he died as he had l

3 CONC ived, an honored and respected man. He was buried at Rivers

3 CONC ide Cemetery, Appleton, on Monday, September 4, 1911. Mr. M

3 CONC eyer was a member of the, Masonic fraternity, the Modern Wo

3 CONC odmen of America, Odd Fellows and other social and benevole

3 CONC nt organizations. His widow survives him and resides in App

3 CONC leton.

2 OBJE

3 FORM pdf

3 FILE C:\genealogy\biographies\z_Bio_Meyer_Henry_William.pdf

3 TITL Meyer, Henry William

3 NOTE Biography from History of Outagamie County, Wisconsin; 1911.

3 _SCBK Y

3 _PRIM Y

3 _TYPE C:\genealogy\biographies\z_Bio_Meyer_Henry_William.pdf

1 CHAN

2 DATE 11 Jul 2012

3 TIME 13:18

1 FAMS @F38422@

0 @I166239@ INDI

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then here is the detail for the source

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0 @S844@ SOUR

1 ABBR H. W. Meyer: Our German American Family

1 TITL H. W. Meyer: Our German American Family

1 AUTH Robert Allan Stevens

1 PUBL H. W. Meyer: Our German American Family

2 CONT Robert Allan Stevens, 2012

2 CONT Pub Three Star Press, Miami, Los Angeles

1 OBJE

2 FORM jpg

2 FILE C:\genealogy\histories\z_his_meyer_h_w_our_german_american_family_2012.jpg

2 TITL H. W. Meyer Our German American Family

2 NOTE by Robert Allan Stevens, 2012

2 _SCBK Y

2 _PRIM Y

2 _TYPE PHOTO

1 _ITALIC Y

1 _PAREN Y

0 @S575@ SOUR

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[bsl20b50]

It sounds like the issue is not that you want the image to show up with the source, but rather the citation. Unfortunately, TNG does not support showing images with citations. I have been using a workaround for this. To display images in source citations, I use a snippet of HTML within the source detail notes (added in Legacy) which uses an iframe to display the picture. You can see an example of it here: http://www.ourfamilyhistories.org/getperso...483&tree=00.

I hope this helps.

Regards,

Bryan