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klooster

Because I love Apple, I run my programs on my Mac. Until now I used Legacy 9 through Paralells Desktop in a virtual Windows surrounding, because Legacy is a Windows program. Exporting GedCom from Legacy and importing the GedCom into TNG works flawless.

But I have to go into the Virtual Windows, so I bought Family TreeMaker 2019 (FMT),  Mac compatible and imported the exported GedCom from TNG into FTM.

No problem, all the persons , media and all the notes etc. are in FTM after the import.

BUT when I export the GedCom from FMT and import this into TNG, then all my notes in TNG are gone??

Now, of course I can restore them from my backup.I checked the exported FMT GedCom, the notes are al there, but they are not importing.

When I test an new added test person with new notes and export, import into TNG the new note is also missing 

I tried several things, export from Legacy into FMT etc. Tried the GedCom converter mod etc. No succes, so I run out of options.

Anyone Idea how to solve this.'

I attach the exported GedCom from FMT 

FTM-EXPORT-GEDCOM-06-01-2021.ged

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theKiwi

I just imported your .ged file into my TNG testing site

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586 Notes imported. Here is 1

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on the page for Cornelis Kloosterman.

Did this not import for you?

Roger

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klooster

Is your testing site Local or online ??

 

I only tried it on my Local Host, I have not tried in online, I wanted to be sure it is working locally first.

 

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klooster

Uploaded all the gedcom relevant php files from the TNG 13.02 again. No success. NO NOTES.

Made a new test Tree, imported the same GedCom file as you imported, NO SUCCES, NO NOTES ??????

It seems to work on your Test site, so it is not a FMT export problem. The GedCom codes for notes seem oke to me in the FTM export.

 

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tngrlkrz

Like Roger, I also imported your gedcom successfully into TNG13.0.2 and found 586 notes.  This was on local host (Laragon), and no WordPress.

 

klooser-import.jpg

Same result on remote hosted website.

Interesting you note count is nearly double.  Must be different import and config settings.

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klooster

This is what I see after importing on my test site, see printscreen:

Schermafbeelding 2021-01-07 om 16.33.48.png

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theKiwi
2 hours ago, klooster said:

It seems to work on your Test site, so it is not a FMT export problem. The GedCom codes for notes seem oke to me in the FTM export.

Here is Cornelis Klooster

http://tngwp.lisaandroger.com/genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I2173&tree=Klooster

2 hours ago, klooster said:

This is what I see after importing on my test site, see printscreen:

 

I notice you have a different number of places - I got 368, you show 379?!

If you look in TNG Admin ------> Custom Events - are there any there set to Ignore?

Roger

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tngrlkrz
1 hour ago, theKiwi said:

I notice you have a different number of places - I got 368, you show 379?!

Roger,  I have 379 places, same as Klooster, but his notes are nearly double on his test site.  

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klooster

I cannot figure this out, made a new test tree, imported etc. no notes visible.

Not a Wordpress problem, deactivated Wordpress, after importing FTM GedCom just stand alone TNG, NO NOTES.

Tngrlkrz and the Kiwi had.no problem importing my FTM export GedCom, the NOTES were visible and had both 586 notes.

The FTM export looks oké to me, the GedCom Notes connatation is correct. SO ????????

 

 

 

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RickM

Klooster,

Are there any Mods (either of your own design or from the Wiki) that may have an impact on the import process.. I have ever only done one import and that was to get me started with TNG, so don't really know what may be the issue. However having noted in past posts that you do make 'Mods' for many differing reasons, it may be that a Mod has changed something that was not intended to be changed..

 

It is just a thought on my part..

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klooster

Thanks for the thought Rick,

I uninstalled ALL (including my own) mods and imported again, did not solve the problem, still NO NOTES

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Michel KIRSCH
1 hour ago, klooster said:

uninstalled ALL (including my own) mods and imported again, did not solve the problem, still NO NOTES

Cees, When I look to

http://tngwp.lisaandroger.com/genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I2162&tree=Klooster

There is a note. So ??

notes.JPG

15 hours ago, theKiwi said:

I notice you have a different number of places - I got 368, you show 379?

Roger, this already happend with another user : you have 11 places that are already existing on your site before import.

Michel

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Michel KIRSCH
12 hours ago, klooster said:

Tngrlkrz and the Kiwi had.no problem importing my FTM export GedCom, the NOTES were visible and had both 586 notes.

When importing your gedcom (local site with Laragon) : 586 notes same as Roger and Ron .

How can you have 1140? Wierd...

What do you have into your tables?

I have : tng_xnotes : 586 notes for tree = "cees"

tng_notelinks : 549 links
That means that 37 notes are not attached to a person/family.

But if I look in Admin>>Notes, the 98 first are empty...

 

Michel

notes cees 2.JPG

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Michel KIRSCH

Take a look to your gedcom file :a note is :

0 @N339@ NOTE
1 CONC
1 CONT Beroep: Koetsier, stoker Adriaan was het "zwarte schaap" in de famili
1 CONC e Bosselaar, hij was voorbestemd om dominee te worden, verkoos echte
1 CONC r om te gaan varen, voer o.a. opde pakketboot van Vlissingen / Bresken
1 CONC s. Zijn laatste jaren als weduwnaar (ij huwde tweemaal) woonde hij o
1 CONC p kamers in het huis van de familie Eckhart (Duits) in de Lampsestraa
1 CONC t te Vlissingen.

Why are the CONC/CONT mixed? Each of your note begins with a CONC blank line. Is it of importance?

Michel

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klooster

Hi Michel,

About the numbers:

When I export from TNG with NO media links:

3746 People, 1292 Families, 35 Sources, 0 Repositories, 1141 Notes, 0 Media, 399 Places

When I export from TNG WITH media links:

3746 People, 1292 Families, 35 Sources, 0 Repositories, 1648 Notes, 567 Media, 399 Places

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The Gedcom exported from TNG, looks like this:

0 @NI1901@ NOTE
1 CONT  Adriaan Kloosterman werkte van 1884 tot 1887 als onderwijzer te Rotterdam en was vanaf 1887 tot 1907 hoofd van de Christelijk School te Dinteloord. Na 1907 werd hij redacteur van een Christelijk schoolblad. Toen menop 15 april 1909 herdacht d
1 CONC t Adriaan Kloosterman 25 jaar geleden zijn werk in dienst van het onderwijs begon schreef men: "Zijn adviezen worden op prijs gesteld; zijn inzicht in onderwijszaken wordt gewaardeerd. Voor alles is de jubilaris een practisch man die geen onderw
1 CONC ijsstelsel phantaseert maar die zijn ideeen steeds weer toetst aande rechtmatige eischen van het leven".

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The Gedcom exported from FTM (after the TNG import), looks like this:

0 @N223@ NOTE
1 CONC 

1 CONT Adriaan Kloosterman werkte van 1884 tot 1887 als onderwijzer te Rotter
1 CONC dam en was vanaf 1887 tot 1907 hoofd van de Christelijk School te Dint
1 CONC eloord. Na 1907 werd hij redacteur van een Christelijk schoolblad. Toe
1 CONC n menop 15 april 1909 herdacht dt Adriaan Kloosterman 25 jaar gelede
1 CONC n zijn werk in dienst van het onderwijs begon schreef men: "Zijn advie
1 CONC zen worden op prijs gesteld; zijn inzicht in onderwijszaken wordt gewa
1 CONC ardeerd. Voor alles is de jubilaris een practisch man die geen onderwi
1 CONC jsstelsel phantaseert maar die zijn ideeën steeds weer toetst aand
1 CONC e rechtmatige eischen van het leven".

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Like you mentioned there is indeed an extra 1 CONC above the 1 CONC ?????

 

And the Note number is different  0 @NI1901@ NOTE versus 0 @N223@ NOTE ????

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Michel KIRSCH

Go to your Admin>>Notes and search for "Adriaan Kloosterman werkte van 1884 tot 1887 als onderwijzer "

how many notes are found? If more than one, to which persons are the notes linked?

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klooster

Linked to only 1 (one) person Michel, see print screen.

Schermafbeelding 2021-01-08 om 12.38.50.png

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Michel KIRSCH
1 hour ago, klooster said:

The Gedcom exported from TNG, looks like this:

If I export your tree from TNG, the same note is well exported with @N223@

TNG exports 1156 notes (export report) , but there are only 567 "real" notes in the gedcom.

I think that the difference comes from notes attached to events, that TNG count as notes (total notes count in notepad+ : 1168)

Export from TNG look as :

0 @N223@ NOTE
1 CONT
1 CONT Adriaan Kloosterman werkte van 1884 tot 1887 als onderwijzer te Rotterdam en was vanaf 1887 tot 1907 hoofd van de Christelijk School te Dinteloord. Na 1907 werd hij redacteur van een Christelijk schoolblad. Toen menop 15 april 1909 herdacht dt A
1 CONC driaan Kloosterman 25 jaar geleden zijn werk in dienst van het onderwijs begon schreef men: "Zijn adviezen worden op prijs gesteld; zijn inzicht in onderwijszaken wordt gewaardeerd. Voor alles is de jubilaris een practisch man die geen onderwijs
1 CONC stelsel phantaseert maar die zijn ideeën steeds weer toetst aande rechtmatige eischen van het leven".

So from when comes this wierd @NI1901@? Can you look into your tables if it exists?

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Michel KIRSCH

in your Admin>>Setup>>General Settings>>Prefixes and Suffixes, how are your note prefix defined?

After that i'm out of ideas...

Michel

 

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klooster

See print screen Michel0 @N656@ NOTE
1 CONT Adriaan Kloosterman werkte van 1884 tot 1887 als onderwijzer te Rotterdam en was vanaf 1887 tot 1907 hoofd van de Chris
1 CONC telijk School te Dinteloord. Na 1907 werd hij redacteur van een Christelijk schoolblad. Toen menop 15 april 1909 herdac
1 CONC ht dt Adriaan Kloosterman 25 jaar geleden zijn werk in dienst van het onderwijs begon schreef men: "Zijn adviezen worde
1 CONC n op prijs gesteld; zijn inzicht in onderwijszaken wordt gewaardeerd. Voor alles is de jubilaris een practisch man di
1 CONC e geen onderwijsstelsel phantaseert maar die zijn ideeën steeds weer toetst aande rechtmatige eischen van het leven"

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klooster

See print screen Michel

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Michel KIRSCH

Take a look on these differences :

From your Gedcom :

0 @I28@ INDI
1 NAME Jacob /Kloosterman/
1 SEX M
1 BIRT
2 DATE 8 NOV 1813
2 PLAC Heinkenszand, Nederland
1 EVEN
2 TYPE Militaire dienst
2 NOTE @N4@
1 DEAT
2 DATE 11 FEB 1844
2 PLAC Heinkenszand, Nederland
1 FAMS @F728@
1 FAMC @F93@


Exported from TNG

0 @I28@ INDI
1 NAME Jacob /KLOOSTERMAN/
2 GIVN Jacob
2 SURN KLOOSTERMAN
1 SEX M
1 BIRT
2 DATE 8 NOV 1813
2 PLAC Heinkenszand, Nederland
1 DEAT
2 DATE 11 FEB 1844
2 PLAC Heinkenszand, Nederland
1 FAMC @F93@
1 FAMS @F728@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 08 Jan 2021

There is no note exported. It means no note in TNG. Why?

In TNG the individual I28 looks as shown below : there is no note

notes cees 5.JPG

 

What's then the Note @N4@?

The note N4 in your gedcom is :

0 @N4@ NOTE
1 CONC Dienstplichtige ZMS. Functie : schutter
1 CONT Archief Zeeuwse Mobiele Schutterij inv.nr 132 sub. 218, inv.nr 133 sub
1 CONC . 201
1 CONT Bron: Zeeuwse Mobiele Schutterij 1830-1839
1 CONT Archief: Ambtenaren functionarissen militairen inventarisnummer [2 jun
1 CONC i 2005] Functionarissen, ambtenaren en militairen 1578-1937.
1 CONT De Zeeuwse Mobiele Schutterij was de dienstdoende en rustende Zeeuws
1 CONC e schutterij die in geval van oorlog kon worden gemobiliseerd om als l
1 CONC andstorm dienst te doen. De enige keer dat dit heeft plaatsgevonden wa
1 CONC s tijdens de Belgische Opstand


If I search into the notes with the text "Dienstplichtige ZMS. Functie : schutter", I found any note...

 

I go Admin>>Custom Event Types>> and set the EVEN Militaire dienst on "Accept"

I do a new import of your gedcom with "replace all data"

Now the notes are showing...

notes cees 6.JPG

New export from TNG looks as :

0 @I28@ INDI
1 NAME Jacob /Kloosterman/
2 GIVN Jacob
2 SURN Kloosterman
1 SEX M
1 BIRT
2 DATE 8 NOV 1813
2 PLAC Heinkenszand, Nederland
1 DEAT
2 DATE 11 FEB 1844
2 PLAC Heinkenszand, Nederland
1 EVEN
2 TYPE Militaire dienst
2 NOTE @N4@

1 FAMC @F93@
1 FAMS @F728@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 08 Jan 2021

Try it !

Michel

 

 

 

 

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Michel KIRSCH

To resume all this post, use these parameters :

Michel (Sorry for the double "o" :-)  )

notes cees 7.JPG

 

 

notes cees 6.JPG

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klooster

Thanks for all the replies and special to you Michel, you really dug into my problem. Well you did put me on the right track. The problem was that my Custom Event types in TNG  somehow got screwed up.

Besides that, I am not so satisfied with FTM (Family Tree Maker) so I bought REUNION 13 for Mac, importing the notes is working now.

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