John Cordes Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 I know this question has been raised a few times before but I think my current situation has not been covered, not exactly anyway. My desktop program is TMG and I update my TNG 11.1.2 site by replacing everything with a new Gedcom file. I have a situation where an individual with two marriages has the first marriage date known exactly, the second is not. But by using sort dates in TMG the exported Gedcom file has the FAMS entries in correct order: i.e. the FAMS for the first marriage appears before the FAMS record for the second marriage. Importing into TNG I always run, in Secondary Options, sort children, sort spouses and track lines. Yet the marriages appear in the wrong order in the TNG site. I've just done a temporary fix using TNG -- it is wonderful that TNG makes it easy to drag the marriage events into the correct order so easily. But clearly I don't want to have to do that every time. My current Gedcom file is large (over 9 MB). Is it worth while my trying to make a very small test file to demonstrate the problem? Or am I wrong in thinking that TNG should (normally) handle this situation correctly? I thought the crucial thing when not all dates are known would be the order of the FAMS events in the Gedcom file, but perhaps I am mistaken about this. Thanks for any advice, John Cordes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayat1familytree Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 John, I also upload complete new gedcoms regularly. In cases like this I set the date of the second marriage marriage to either bef (the first date) or aft (the first date) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cordes Posted December 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 1 hour ago, jayat1familytree said: John, I also upload complete new gedcoms regularly. In cases like this I set the date of the second marriage marriage to either bef (the first date) or aft (the first date) Thanks Jay. I have actually done just that for the particular couple where I noticed the problem, but there are probably many other cases in my TMG database where that hasn't been done. I guess I must have been wrong in thinking that TNG would go by the order of the FAMS events. Perhaps if I hadn't chosen 'sort spouses' it might have worked -- but that might in turn introduce other problems. Hmm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayat1familytree Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 Pretty sure any sorting would only involve the date field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Roy Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 If the sort order for spouses and children is correct on your desktop, there should be no need to Sort Children and Sort Spouses in TNG. That is likely to mess up the correct order when dates are not available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cordes Posted December 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 Thanks Ken. I've just tried that with a tiny test file containing only this family and yes, I confirm that the order is correct in TNG without using Sort Children or Sort Spouses. I thought I had found once that at least the Sort Children was needed, despite having birth dates, if the children had not been entered in chrono order. I will have to check into all this again. Clearly more experimenting is needed. Thanks very much for the feedback. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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