Titles missing from media items in exported GEDCOMS

[mfkalt]

I am creating a GEDCOM in TNG v11.0.2 for export to Roots Magic.  All of my media items have titles (see attached example), but the GEDCOM file does not contain anything in the TITL field.  Here are the corresponding lines from the GEDCOM:

0 @M6915@ OBJE
1 FORM JPG
1 FILE E:\RootsMagic\Kalt-Sperber\documents\mendel-manele-kalt-birth-record-1861.jpg
1 TITL 
1 _TYPE PHOTO
1 NOTE Birth year is 1860, even though file name contains 1861.

Titles are included in the GEDCOM file for source records, but not for any media files.  

Why am I not getting anything in the TITL field for any of my media files?

 

 

 

[jayat1familytree]

I just tested a Gedcom Export created by TNG ver 11.  and I am seeing the TITTLES for my Media Items.....

 

However, all my media items are attached to the EVENT record, not the Source Record.

Not sure if that makes any difference......

Anyway, the resulting gedcom does have the correct Tittle Info...

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2 OBJE
3 FORM JPG
3 FILE c:\wamp64\www\genealogy\census\census1930\z_cen_1930_wi_outagamie_kaukauna_ed34page05a.jpg
3 TITL 1930 Census Kaukauna ED34 page 05a
3 _TYPE CENSU
3 NOTE Outagamie County, Wisconsin
2 SOUR @S738@
3 PAGE "United States Census, 1930", database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9SZ-J3K : accessed 15 May 2016), Richard R Wilpolt, 1930.
1 RESI 123 Main St.
2 DATE 1938
2 PLAC Hudson Falls, Washington, New York, USA
2 OBJE
3 FORM JPG
3 FILE c:\wamp64\www\genealogy\documents\wilpolt_richard_1938_residence_record.jpg
3 TITL Wilpolt, Richard and Margaret
3 _TYPE DOCUMENT
3 NOTE residing at 123 Main St. Hudson Falls, NY.
1 EVEN 2442/t0627-02799-00341/57
2 TYPE 1940 Census
2 DATE 1940
2 PLAC Hudson Falls, Washington, New York, USA
2 NOTE Ed 43, page 26, Listed as Richard age 41 born Kaukauna Wisconsin, Margaret age 42, Carol Ann age , Glenn age 11, Margaret age 9. Worked 48 hours the week of March 24-30, 1940. Worked avg of 43 hrs per week during the year 1939 earning  $1,600. A
3 CONC ddress 44 Elm St. Rented for $ 30 per Month.
2 OBJE
3 FORM JPG
3 FILE c:\wamp64\www\genealogy\census\census1940\z_cen_1940_ny_washington_hudson_falls_ed43_page26.jpg
3 TITL 1940 Census Hudson Falls, New York Page 26
3 _TYPE CENSU
2 SOUR @S1116@
3 PAGE "United States Census, 1940," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KQMM-SF4 : accessed 15 May 2016), Richard Wilpolt, Hudson Falls, Kingsbury Town, Washington, New York, United States; citing enumeration di
4 CONC strict (ED
1 EVEN
2 TYPE News Mention
2 DATE 21 Jul 1921
2 OBJE
3 FORM JPG
3 FILE c:\wamp64\www\genealogy\newspapers\wilpolt_richard_news_1921_07_21.jpg
3 TITL Wilpolt, Richard News Reports Peeping Tom
3 _TYPE NEWSPAPER
3 NOTE News
1 EVEN Appleton Post Crescent
2 TYPE News Mention
2 DATE 27 Jun 1937
2 PLAC Kaukauna, Outagamie, Wisconsin, USA
2 OBJE
3 FORM JPG
3 FILE c:\wamp64\www\genealogy\newspapers\wilpolt_richard_news_1937_06_26.jpg
3 TITL Wilpolt, Richard News Family Moves
3 _TYPE NEWSPAPER
3 NOTE 1937 News Appleton Post Crescent dated 6/27/1937;
4 CONT Leaves for East; Richard Wilpolt, Machine tender, with his wife and family, and John Philips, finishing room man, with his wife, left this morning for Hudson, Falls. (NY)

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Maybe someone else will know why your gedcoms are not including the info.

If not I suggest you ask Darrin via email.

 

 

 

 

[tngrlkrz]

Did you search your entire Gedcom for  title text with a text editor?  Just a thought.  Sometimes the media records are exported in a different part of the file.  I rely heavily on a good text editor to do many things with Gedcom files when exporting / importing between genealogy packages. Assume you ticked media links export box too.

[mfkalt]

Thanks for the suggestions.  The titles are coming out fine for media associated with sources, but not with media defined as objects.   What's in the description field in the TNG entry comes out as a NOTE in the Gedcom, but what's in the title field on the TNG page does not appear in the TITL line in the gedcom.  I have gone through the Gedcom file several times in an editor, and the TITL records are there, but there is nothing in them.

[tngrlkrz]

14 hours ago, mfkalt said:

Thanks for the suggestions.  The titles are coming out fine for media associated with sources, but not with media defined as objects.   What's in the description field in the TNG entry comes out as a NOTE in the Gedcom, but what's in the title field on the TNG page does not appear in the TITL line in the gedcom.  I have gone through the Gedcom file several times in an editor, and the TITL records are there, but there is nothing in them.

I you sure you don't mean the opposite: the media assoc with sources are not working?  I don't have any of those but all my media are objects assoc with a person and export fine.

As a test, I exported a branch of several hundred persons, with media links ticked on export.  All Titles are in the gedcom as TITL recs, and all the descriptions as NOTE recs.  In fact, no blank TITL recs at all.   TNG 11.1.1.  These media are defined as objects assoc with an person w:

0 @M687819@ OBJE
1 FORM jpg
1 FILE Media\photos\P1983 Krzmarzick,ronL-(Murray),dustineL w West,everettt,(Nicholson),mary.jpg
1 TITL 1983 The Wests visit the Krzmarzicks
1 _TYPE PHOTO
1 NOTE Dustine (Murray) Krzmarzick, Mary (West) Nicholson, Everett West, Ron Krzmarzick

[mfkalt]

tngrlkrz, my media record in TNG looks just like yours, and the lines in the GEDCOM file are the same as yours, except the TITL line has no text.  If I add a description, a NOTE line appears in the GEDCOM with the description, but the TITL record still contains no text.  I went through the GEDCOM file and none of the approximately 1,100 media objects linked to people has anything in the TITL record.  

[mfkalt]

I installed the latest version of TNG (11.1.1) and the titles now appear.  Presumably we will never know what caused the problem.  Thanks to all who helped!