https://tng.community/index.php?/discover/TNG Community - All Activityenphp 8.3 Not dumb at all!Fri, 10 Jul 2026 22:28:24 +0000Dumb question and all, What version of php is the site on?? Wonder if it is worth trying Google Maps and see what happens?Fri, 10 Jul 2026 22:03:57 +0000@LindyD are you able to say who your web host is, and I can look at their help pages and see if I can give you some backup advice? Like Katryne says, the inbuilt backup is database tables only. If your host offers cpanel access of some sort, I can give you guidance on downloading the data via (probably) phpMyAdmin and also downloading a backup of the site files. My host does back up the site, but I do a download before I apply updates just to be safe.Fri, 10 Jul 2026 20:33:33 +0000I'm going to post the problem on the forum again; maybe someone has an idea. In edit mode, I see a map, but in normal view, it's gone. As a result, several scripts aren't loading. The mod installed without any errors. The heat map is displayed correctly Mod-Detail.txtFri, 10 Jul 2026 18:45:09 +0000Glad to hear you have it working! My post on June 28 mentioned Google rules requiring setting up 2FA and creating an app password but I did not mention the port or security setting. I have two Gmail accounts but I do not use them for TNG. The reason is Google's Workspace agreement states: "Google may transfer, store and process Customer Data in the United States or any other country in which Google or its agents maintain facilities. By using the Services, Customer consents to this transfer, processing and storage of Customer Data." So when notifying to a new user registration activation, I would not include sending their password. Additionally, I do not use my Gmail accounts for any financial or other correspondence that may contain sensitive information.Fri, 10 Jul 2026 13:14:16 +0000Hi Joe, Not sure how many TNG users know what OAuth2 is. I didn't know so I searched for it and this is what I found. No. TNG (The Next Generation of Genealogy Sitebuilding) does not natively support OAuth 2.0 or OpenID Connect (OIDC) for user authentication. TNG uses its own authentication system: User accounts are stored in its MySQL database. uthentication is handled through PHP sessions. There is no built-in support for OAuth 2.0, OpenID Connect, or SAML. If you want to use OAuth2 with TNG there are several approaches: Protect TNG with a reverse proxy Use a solution such as Authentik, Keycloak, Authelia, or OAuth2 Proxy. The proxy performs the OAuth2/OIDC authentication before users reach TNG. This is the simplest approach if you want to restrict access to the entire site. Modify TNG's login process Since TNG is written in PHP, you can integrate an OAuth2/OIDC client library. This allows users to sign in with providers such as: Microsoft Entra ID Google Authentik Keycloak Okta This requires custom development because there is no official plugin for OAuth2 authentication. Implement Single Sign-On (SSO) Configure your web server (Apache or Nginx) to authenticate users via OpenID Connect. Customize TNG to trust the authenticated user provided by the web server. API access TNG also does not provide an official REST API secured with OAuth2. Most integrations are implemented by: Accessing the MySQL database directly. Using GEDCOM import/export. Creating custom PHP endpoints. Recommendation If your goal is simply to let users sign in with an external identity provider (such as Microsoft Entra ID, Google, Authentik, or Keycloak), the most maintainable solution is usually to place TNG behind an OIDC-enabled reverse proxy rather than modifying TNG itself. Hope this helps.Fri, 10 Jul 2026 13:13:39 +0000Lindy, TNG is my main, no, my only place for my genealogy researches. I don't use any local software or any collective genealogy website. So, maybe we do not have the same needs. Nevertheless, I have been managing websites for a quarter of century. And complete regular backups though ftp is a must. I do not understand how one can be sure of not losing anything otherwise. Backups are the first priority when managing a website. Michel is a prolific mod coder for TNG.Fri, 10 Jul 2026 13:06:37 +0000👍TanxFri, 10 Jul 2026 12:49:12 +0000@Katryne I think you are more techy than me! My data on TNG will never be my master gedcom, so I will never be in danger of losing all my data if the worst happened... but the setup and how all that data displays and is configured on TNG needs to be protected. I am finding my webhost unhelpful and do not currently have a FTP; I upload the gedcom and then the linked images from my laptop. Darrin installed TNG for me. On the dashboard of my webhost (Fasthosts) I can see the name of my database and how much space I have used. But nowhere can I see a list of all the data and system files. I need to enlist some tech help, but would rather it was someone familiar with TNG rather than just a random IT person. I have no idea who Michael Kirsch is!Fri, 10 Jul 2026 12:45:11 +0000Sorry, I am obviously not being very clear. What I am saying that in order to configure TNG for a gmail address your Google account has to have 2FA and you have to have a Google app password to enter in the TNG config. Those are Google rules, not TNGs, but a Gmail address apparently won't work for Contact Us without them. Obviously not everyone uses Gmail, but for those who have tried and failed, I thought the information might by helpful.Fri, 10 Jul 2026 12:28:41 +0000I believe the built-in backup system is only for the database. It just spare me the need to back up my database on my hosting provider's site. On administration side, I regularly launch the backup of the tables, then of the structure of table. And then I download all the files via ftp. I do that every month or every 2 months maybe. And it includes tha database backup : is needed I can always restore it from one of my backups. I save too the gedcom of course, through the internal system. Michel Kirsch told me it was the way to do it and I always listen to Michel's advices.Fri, 10 Jul 2026 11:58:39 +0000I don’t use the inbuilt backup system but I would look further at what Darrin hinted at…the root path. Maybe ask your web host for help determining what the actual value should be there?Fri, 10 Jul 2026 11:33:32 +0000Right, but you’re making it sound like 2FA information is needed in TNG. I’d love to know where that information goes in TNG. I’m pretty sure you’re just saying you needed to make your Gmail account more secure and that’s where you use 2FA…and I assume that is what you also mean by “a dedicated password app”…to handle 2FA in Gmail?Fri, 10 Jul 2026 11:23:00 +0000I got mails to my admin address up to October 2023, after that I have not received any mail, has TNG made a change around then and require smtp etc? It has to been changed, when I fill in all the smtp fields I could send from TNG and recieved in my mail at my host. LeifFri, 10 Jul 2026 11:05:17 +0000Confused or not it works. I'd been struggling with it for a couple of weeks, others for a whole lot longer. 2FA, a dedicated app password and the correct port and encryption were the magic key for me. And yes, that is the config within TNG.Fri, 10 Jul 2026 09:50:05 +0000Sorry, are you saying that’s the info that you put into TNG, because if so, I’m amazed that worked. There's two things to look at when setting up contact us page…. 1) The email address the details get sent to…that can be almost any email address 2) ***HOW*** TNG sends the email to that address…and that’s the tricky part. Most people set up an account on their actual server (or web host) to send the email out. You seem to be suggesting you’ve managed to get TNG to send via your Gmail account, which staggers me…because Gmail is very locked down and doesn’t want to be used to send random emails from websites. The fact that 2FA factors into your how to is even more curious, as 2FA has nothing to do with sending an email I confess I’m confused by your solutionFri, 10 Jul 2026 09:38:57 +0000Just some feedback as this issue has now been resolved with help from someone on the TNG Facebook Forum. When using a gmail email address for Contact Us you have to do the following: 1. Set up 2FA 2. Create a Google app password (a different one than the app password used for maps) 3. SMTP host name = smtp.gmail.com 4. Port 587 5. Encryption: tls Hope this may be helpful for others! Worked like a charm for me and another poor soul who had been struggling with the same issue for over two years!Fri, 10 Jul 2026 09:17:06 +0000Fri, 10 Jul 2026 09:00:31 +0000Fri, 10 Jul 2026 02:45:01 +0000@RickM, I'll do that; I'll send @Ellsinore a PM.Thu, 09 Jul 2026 12:15:53 +0000@Ellsinore, You could put a generic one up that has just enough access to see an individuals page with a map on.. There are folk out there that can look at the browsers Dev Tools and perhaps see if an error is happening with the Map. Perhaps if @ajnsmits felt willing he could be given via PM Admin access to check the back end.. I would do that myself, but that would be about my limit should it all look right.. If you are able to check your server logs there may be some clues there as well..Thu, 09 Jul 2026 09:04:59 +0000Hello! When I call up a person in Tng, I am not shown the data of the person, at most a picture. When I want to call a family, the corresponding form is missing. Only a white page is displayed. What can I do to eliminate these errors?Thu, 09 Jul 2026 07:48:19 +0000Thanks again. I've forwarded these links to his descendants in Tahiti. I don't really have a direct connection to Wilhelm Orbek—he's more like a cousin of a cousin of a cousin. But I'm going to add his ancestors to my family tree.Thu, 09 Jul 2026 06:22:07 +0000I'm not sure who I should send a login to?Thu, 09 Jul 2026 06:20:03 +0000Good morning @Ellsinore I’ve been looking into this some more, but the only way I can get it to not show a map is by creating an incorrect key map. Are you sure you have “OSM” in all caps, or that there isn’t a space before it, for example? AndréThu, 09 Jul 2026 06:20:02 +0000